Posted by: Bob Fenton, Assistant Administrator, Response
Over the last several months, FEMA has made great strides in being more active and inclusive with our employee communication…especially as it pertains to those who are part of our reservist program. Using all the tools at our disposal, we’re even including the use of the FEMA blog to help ensure we’re providing information to our workforce in a timely fashion.
After the Town Hall meetings and Think Tank sessions, we have received e-mails from many of you suggesting that the Response Directorate stay in touch with you about the Disaster Assistance Employee transition to the Reservist Program. This blog will be a quick and direct way to do that. As the opening of the application process for the Reservist Program is fast-approaching, we have scheduled a webinar to share an overview of the application process and to provide resources to keep you informed during the transition.
First and foremost, we are committed to making sure that you know how to apply to the new Reservist Program, are aware of how these changes may affect you, and how you can get more information. Maintaining open lines of communication will continue to be a top priority as we move forward with the Reservist Program.
Staying Informed
There are several ways that you can continue to receive information on the Reservist Program.
- Bob’s Blog – we started this blog section with you in mind, to provide a public place for you to receive information on all topics related to the Disaster Workforce Transformation.
- The Employee Information and Resource Center Page at www.fema.gov/employees - this page is a great one-stop shop where you can find announcements, timelines, and videos. We posted step-by-step instructions for the application process—so be sure to download those.
- The FEMA Weekly – another great place to find announcements and information about the transition. If you aren’t subscribed via e-mail, you can find the most recent newsletters posted to www.fema.gov/employees.
- The FEMA Employee call center--the call center can be reached by calling 1-855-377-FEMA (3362), hours are from 9 a.m. - 6 p.m. EDT Monday – Friday.
- Webinars – to discuss the Reservist Program, we will be conducting ongoing webinars on weekly basis with senior leadership from the appropriate offices. Be sure to closely monitor your e-mail or visit the employee resource page for upcoming dates and times.

I understand that the conditions of employment ( the old DAE policy 8600.1) is being revised significantly. I am hoping that the revised policy will be approved and distributed prior to the application date of 6/15 so that DAEs can see what those changes are and make an informed decision regarding whether or not they wish to apply for a position in the new reservist cadre. Is that going to be the case, or will we just sally forth blindly?
ReplyDeleteThanks for contacting us. We will try our best to share the new Conditions of Employment for the Reservist Program by June 15.
DeleteI thought I just read above from Mr. Fenton......"First and foremost, we are committed to making sure that you know how to apply to the new Reservist Program, are aware of how these changes may affect you, and how you can get more information. Maintaining open lines of communication will continue to be a top priority as we move forward with the Reservist Program."
DeleteWe will "try our best"????? I interpret that to mean "sally forth blindly".
Hi Tom - thanks for your inquiry! The Conditions of Employment Agreement document and the new FD 010-6 "Reservist Program Management Directive" (replaces the 8600.1) are both now posted on fema.gov - find them here:
Deletehttp://www.fema.gov/about/employees/reservist_program_application_process_update.shtm
1.If you are currently a DAE with an FQS qualified status for the job you are applying for what additional paperwork besides an application is required?
ReplyDelete2.When are the new conditions of employment going to be posted?
Thanks for your question. Your resume, FQS Notification letter for DAEs who have been rated under FQS, and OF-306 Declaration for Federal Employment are the only required documents for the application process. A PDF writeable version of the OF-306 can be obtained at http://www.opm.gov/Forms/pdf_fill/OF306.pdf. We will also try our best to share the new Conditions of Employment for the Reservist Program by June 15.
DeleteClarifiction please on applying for a second job title for which we may also be qualified.
ReplyDeleteFirst, we need to apply for both positions separately?
Second, will we then need two resumes?
Third, Do you want only FEMA related experience as to the number of disasters, types, and our titles on the FEMA disasters worked which apply towards the additional job(s) titles?
Thanks for contacting us. Yes, you will need to apply individually for each position. It is left to the applicant’s discretion if they want to use the same resume for each application or different resumes. The resume should include any and all relevant experience to the position for which you are applying, regardless of the organization for which it was performed.
DeleteHow sad it is that you did not anticipate how many DAEs would be interested in their future with FEMA that the 6/5 Webinar crashed. What's wrong with this picture?
ReplyDeleteThanks for contacting FEMA. The Homeland Security Information Network (HSIN) supports the entire DHS enterprise and has connection restrictions. While the connection restrictions are high, the volume of conference viewers and simultaneous usage of the system by other Department conferences accessing the HSIN Connect application at the time of the scheduled June 5 Reservist Program Webinar exceeded capacity. Due to the previous system issue, FEMA is going to use a proven webcast system for our scheduled Tuesday timeframe and continue using that medium until further notice.
DeleteWhat good is a blog if no one answers the questions posted?
ReplyDeleteI would think that the first question posted 6/5 would have a comment by now by someone 'in the know' on the timeframe of publication for that document.
I would appreciate some sign that this isn't just a placebo for DAE/Reservists thinking they have input, but no one is watching.....
FEMA leadership values the ability to provide responses to your comments within a 48 hour time frame. Each response is reviewed by a Senior Leadership Official to ensure accuracy and consistency. We are working to improve our turnaround time.
DeleteThere will be many X DEA's when this process is all over. This is the easy way to clean house and bring in those that fit the new leadership.
ReplyDeleteHi all,
ReplyDeleteRight now there is only speculation and rumor going around about the new COE for Reservists, as the June 15-29th application period quickly approaches. Thousands of Reservists are getting their resumes and paperwork in order without knowing what their new job will entail. This is causing unnecessary stress and loss of faith in HQs handling of this "transformation."
Why "reinvent the wheel?" if some regions had problems, that could have been addressed instead of making thousands of DAE/Reservists go through this frustrating process. In the end FEMA will lose many dedicated, experienced employees.
One size does not fit all in staffing for disasters. Not all DAEs can perform special functions when needed. The "name requests" that are being ended were in most situations "skill and experience" requests to perform specific additional missions. Some DAEs perform their jobs at a minimum level and probably should not have been renewed. Those people may not have been deployed as much as they would have liked. Trying to achieve "fairness" by deploying from anonymous lists will cause the FEMA mission and services to our survivors to suffer and fail in some cases.
In any event, please release the new COE as soon as possible.
Thank you for this opportunity to communicate my thoughts.
Thank you Elliot for your comment, your point of view is important to us. Times of change can be difficult, and we know that people are concerned about keeping their jobs - so please know that FEMA wants to retain our critical workforce. The Reservist Program will provide a more stable, consistent, and reliable process for all employees, regardless of their cadre or location. Name requests have not been eliminated; however we have clarified the deployment rules, including name requests. For specifics, see the Reservist Policy Directive at http://www.fema.gov/library/viewRecord.do?&id=6091. Also, you can now view the Conditions of Employment Agreement here: http://www.fema.gov/library/viewRecord.do?&id=6092.
DeleteWhen will salary rates for each position be posted? Knowledge of the anticipated salary rate for each position would significantly influence my personal decision relative to my application.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. Each position announcement includes the rate of pay - just open the announcment to view. Keep in mind that DAEs who transition to the new Reservist Program will not have their pay reduced, unless they apply and are selected for a lower position than their current FQS position. If you apply and qualify for a position that pays higher than your current DAE pay, you will receive the higher level of pay. FEMA will exempt or “grandfather” the pay of DAEs who transition directly into the Reservist Program in their current FQS title before the end of 2012.
DeleteJoan,
DeleteYour answer ignores the fact that HQ/HR shot down grades and step increases that were submitted before NDRP even began to be implemented. This is a serious injustice and shows a complete lack of sensitivity to DAEs by full time FEMA people. Requests to correct this injustice have been met with deafening silence and complete inaction. Or am I wrong ? And please spare us the Orwellian doublespeak about being this change being "fair and equitable."
I have been rather unhappy with the FQS review of my records. I have tried, unsucesively, to correct a large amount of missing qualifications in my file. Is there a expedient way to correct this at this time? I have already been placed in the National Community Relation Cadre, but I also have many other qualifications, such as, PA that seems to have a shortage. My status was also as "Qualified" in CR rather than trainee.
ReplyDeleteCathy - Thank you for your comment. Until June 29, 2012, you have the opportunity to apply for any position you believe you are qualified for. When you apply, you may submit any additional information or supporting documentation that will demonstrate your qualification. Please reference the Employee Information and Resource Center for updated information and FAQs regarding the application process at http://www.fema.gov/about/employees/faq_rp.shtm.
DeleteUSA Jobs resume info section: Are we stating the region we are with now as our Employer or DHS - If DHS, what is the proper address and supv?
ReplyDeleteUnder training box - advised not needed - just enter records on file?
Submission is done via FAX for every application?
First I've heard of needing OF-306. Only been advised what was not needed.
13 yrs of service-will not cave-in, but it is becoming ridiculous.....
Thanks for your inquiry. Your Present employer is DHS/FEMA. If you are currently assigned to a Regional cadre, state which Region and the address. You can find the address for your Region at www.fema.gov/about/regions. If you are assigned to FEMA Headquarters, the address is FEMA Headquarters, 500 C Street SW, Washington DC 20472.
DeleteYou can upload additional training records to your USAJobs Profile, however there is no need to include records from ADD, FEKC, EMI, or TIOS – the review panels will have access to these FEMA records.
You do not need to fax your application if you are applying on line. Review the section of the CareerConnector guide on submitting your application posted here: http://www.fema.gov/about/employees/reservist_program_application_process_update.shtm
Form OF 306 (please use version dated October 2011) is required and can be found here: www.opm.gov/Forms/pdf_fill/OF306.pdf.
I have tried for years to get recognition for my 300 and 400 (NIMS:Advanced Incident Command System/NIMS: Command and General Staff) on my FEMA records, but never have I seen these courses on my record. I tried to download my Certificates on my Reservist application and only was able to download one ( which I don't even know if my downloads are retrievable by HQ because the application process was not "simple"). So when you say all our records will be reviewed in the hiring process,for me, are not complete.
Delete#1. Why were FQS rating based only on a five year period.
ReplyDelete#2. Why were DAEs denied step increases and grade increases before the NDRP actually went into effect.
#3. Does Senior leadership read the IDEASCALE for reservist and act on any suggestions...names and examples please.
#4. If there were problems with the old system, why were they not corrected at the Regional Level making DAE status more uniform.
#5. If ten Regions could not keep track of DAEs, how is consolidation into One Region going to be better. (The FCO at the last disaster I worked said that there were people who were deceased who were still listed as DAEs and that was the reason for the change.)
#6. Over many years, many DAEs have worked successfully in many different areas. How is that flexibility to be maintained with the FQS even considering being qualified for two positions below.
#7. Will considerations of pay be based on the unpredictible time and circumstances of DAE work and not just the degree of difficulty of the particular FQS designations.
#8. In the first Webinar, a promise was made that all emails would be answered but this did not happen.
#9. Why were not reservists included in the first phase of FQS designations instead of being left to Regions and HQs. Why only 60 days to reqest reconsideration of FQS designations and why was the procedure left so unclear.
#10. Since only DAE FEMA workers have been singled out for this process, did senior leadership consult with OPM, Congress, Legal Department and GSA to see if the process was not fundamentally, discriminatory, unethical, and illegal?
Thanks for your inquiry, Paul. FQS panels evaluated records from the past 5 to 10 years, depending on the position and competencies required.
DeleteHR put a temporary freeze on DAE personnel actions – including pay increases – in order to transition all DAEs fairly and equitably to the new program.
Joan, if you go to the Reservist IdeaScale, and look up an Idea with the title C'monMan, you will see the issue of withholding earned grade payraises and step increases you will see the vote was 22-1 against what HQ did. Your answer is an insult. We earned the raises and should have received them. The people who made the decision have no shame.
DeleteIt has been over 25 days since new ideas have been posted. I believe the reason is that their were so many embarrassing questions of the the present policy, the leaders could not deal with them. I asked my representative in the Region about this and he said the leaders were too busy. This means the program is so ill conceived there are not enough people to do the work.
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DeleteC'omOn Man !!!!!
Dear Leaders,
I just returned home after thirty days from a disaster deployment in Indiana I was honored to serve in a role as a DRC Manager which is higher than my FQS Designation. This made three disasters in a row where I worked as DRC manager and received excellent evaluations.
In February I was informed I had earned a new grade. The FQS National Reservist Cadre Program took over before my grade increase was approved by HQ. This meant I was denied $800.00 in wages during the Indiana Disaster. This is not an insignificant amount for someone living on Social Security when not deployed.
I talked to a number of DAEs in the same boat.
Is this any way to start a new program that claims to be necessitated by concern for fairness?
I listened to the Town Meeting Video last week and at least twice I heard that postions designated would involve no change in salary. But this is not entirely true considering the normal earned increases recommended by the Regions were shot down by HQ.
Could someone please take a look at this problem and rectify this injustice.
I have been active with FEMA for over 18 years. This is not the first time in my FEMA experience that the organization has moved the bar on me after years of hard work.
If leaders of FEMA are acting in good faith, the place to start is restore hard earned and deserved promotions and step increases that were sent to them in February.
If you turn a deaf ear to what you yourselves called valuable work done in past, why should anyone trust your promises for the future? Act now leaders or cut the bull.
Joan,
DeleteDo you know and if you do could you tell us how many DAEs were denied step and grade increases that were shot down by HQ after they were approved by the Regions. Was it 10, 50, 100, 300 or more. Please don't answer you do not know. You could find out. Also if you want to be "fair and equitable" why not start the DAEs at a wage inluding the last recommendation. This is an a morale issue. Before anyone can talk about benefits, they should keep in mind the first benefit is a pay check which is earned. Yes different Regions had different ways of calculatiing DAE pay but we lived with the difference for years and you should have respected the past. If you wanted to make things more uniform the HQ could have worked it out among the Regions without upsetting the DAE framework. I think the leaders feel DAEs are overpaid and have cut the wages across the board.
I'm currently a DAE that is not deployed. When I set up my profile in USAjobs it asks for my "hiring eligiblity" and what my current federal employment status is. What should my response to that be? If it is yes I'm currently a federal employee then it asks for details such as job code and pay grade, where would I find that information?
ReplyDeleteI found that info from the SF-50 from my eopm record.
DeleteThanks for your inquiry. Yes, answer the USAJobs profile question #4 with the following information:
Delete I am currently a Federal employee
Pay Plan: Administratively Determined (AD)
Occupational Series: 0301
Grade: 99
Will it be necessary to fax application and docs from USA Jobs/Career Connector?
ReplyDelete#1 Having scanned my FQS and my OF-306, one got scanned as a jpeg and the other as a bit format. Will this matter when uploading to USAjobs? I haven't been able to get an answer from Region because they don't know either. Can anyone answer this for me? I thought I saw something about just using a particular format for uploading to USAjobs.
ReplyDeleteThis is for Tamara: Series: AD Plan Pan: 301 Grade: 00 That applies to ALL DAE's and I got that from my Regional IWMO Liaison who is trying to answer our questions - hope this helps a few folks!
From Marcia Sanderson
DeleteThanks for the pay scale info. Is this confirmed??
Thanks!
DeleteCorey: Please clarify the occupation series and grade. I thought you said AD 30031 00. Is this correct? What does the 00 mean?
DeleteSome one on the call indicated that an annuitant can only work up to 90 days per deployment. When I completed the annuitant waiver at the JFO,the completed form allows me to work up to 120 days per deployment as a federal annuitant. Please clarify.
Do the position announcements call for KSA's? If so are they applicable to each position category or just general KSA's?
I thought I heard Corey say that USAjobs.gov is not a system for applying for a position; that USAjobs.gov is a resume system or resume building system. I am confused. Once one builds their resume and submits with appropriate documentation, is not the submittal via USAjobs.gov in essence applying for the job to FEMA. Or did I misunderstand? Please clarify.
All, don't forget to check your version of OF306 before submitting onto USAJobs. The most current version is October 2011. Also, under your USA Jobs profile, the correct sequence for #4.3 in USA Jobs is Pay Plan: AD (Administratively Determined) Series: 0301 Grade: 00 4.5 Have you accepted a buyout from a Federal agency within the past 5 years? Answer as applicable to you (Yes or No)
Delete4.6 Are you ICTAP Eligible? (The Career Transition Assistance Program (CTAP) and the Interagency Career Transition Assistance Program (ICTAP) are programs that grant special priority selection to current or former federal employees who have been displaced.) Answer YES or NO, if applicable.
It does matter when uploading your documents whether they are bitmap or pdf. If your documents are bitmap, USAJOBS will not allow you to upload. If you go under you profile to saved documents under my account, it will allow you to upload up to 10 documents from your computer. Each upload has a drop down box that allows you to choose what type of document. hope this helps
Delete10 documents??? 5 is all I could do and that was one document per category, even if the document did not match the title of the category. AND doing that was not easy!! 10 documents, pray tell how did you do that? Although, it means nothing at this point (July 7th)
DeleteAfter watching the VTC I found one thing very interesting. In one sentence you acknowledge the fact that the demographic of FEMA DAE's has changed dramataclly since its inception. We are no longer a workforce made up of primarly retired people but people of all ages. This means that a larger portion rely on FEMA for thier income. Then you talk about bringing the total number of Reservists to 12000, when last year which was one of our busiest years in a long time only 6000 people worked. Then it is mentioned that we may not be eligble to claim unemployment in the future. A 30 day deployment a year will not make a difference. Everyone needs to work disasters to survive and some people rely on employment during the down time as no one will hire a person that might leave the next day. I love and believe in my job but I also need to support my family. I am highly concerned of the future of the organazation but most of all the services we provide to the survivors. I am by far not the only one in this situation. How do you expect to retain a highly trained group of people under these conditions?
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding me - DAE positions were never to be considered a constant source of income for anybody - you need to provide for your family responsibilities with a job with benefits. Unemployment was a perk that I never understood, when our job was "intermittent" and if we do not continue to receive it - so be it - how many DAE's can you name that collect UC when they are not actually available due to illness, vacations etc...a real scam on my and your tax dollars. Rethink your applying to transition.
DeleteI've paid into UC since I was 13. I always thought it was an emergency fund for those that were working full time, but got laid off or fired as a full time worker. I am now retired, have a good pension, work as a DAE and never filed for UC, and don't plan to. I know many others do, and to me, this is cheating the American Taxpayer. Being a DAE was never meant to be a full time job. When I was interviewed by FEMA, it was made perfectly clear, no disasters, no work, no income. It was best suited for retirees or those with an outside income and benefits who could leave for a minimum of 30 days.
DeleteSo only the rich and senior population will be fit to deploy? Interesting. So glad I fit the profile. Sorry about the rest of you middle class, educated/trained and loyal employees who have managed to put your skills to work for the benefit of the disaster victims (some for many years). I will miss you. I hope they can hire a lot of senior / rich to replace you all, otherwise, I might work myself to death trying to accomplish the FEMA mission (as a dedicated/trained and LOYAL FEMA employee.
DeleteSince the DAE has little or no control of the length of time she/he is called to work, I think they deserve UC. In my State one has to earn at least $14,000 to be eligible. I would gladly work and have worked almost year round as a DAE. I consider it my pimary job. If the law says we are eligible, why not receive it? I disagree with your comments but I respect your opinion. Nothing is clear or predictable with FEMA...just think of Florida in 2004 or Karina/Rita in 2005. We save the taxpayer a great deal of money by only working when needed. Some retirees need UC and I am one of them and I have been very honest with my UC board what I am about.
DeleteWhen I was in my thirties I worked for FEMA as a DAE for a few years but it became obvious I was not going to get enough work to support my family. I left the organization and came back to work in my late fifties. It is working for me now. Just pass this on for something for you to think about.
DeleteHow does one upload documents to the USAJOBS site? I have tried and it won't upload my document (FQS letter). I am totally frustrated. I have requested replies via emails and calls, but no one answers my question. I have tried to not be a robot, but have answered the scrambled word game about 10 times and can not get the clearance---HELP
ReplyDeleteInstead of going through the USAJOBS, why weren't DAEs sent a simple letter asking if they wish to continue with FEMA based on their new FQS designation and the new NDRP ? Check the boxes applicable. Then HQ and the Regions could process the paperwork needed for the transfer to NDRP.
ReplyDeleteAMEN!!!
DeleteI am currently deployed to a JFO. We're trying to keep up with information via VTC and email updates. I've not seen morale so low since post-Katrina nor have I in my previous employments (9 years with FEMA, local government before that) been treated to such a display of basic Human Resource management errors. I believe the concensus of my fellow employees is that we've been proud of our jobs and willing to work hard and go an extra mile because we're serving a cause we believe in. I see that dribbling away. We've already had local DAEs drop by and turn in their badges. Years of experience not willing to go through the drama imposed on us by trying to implement a system (transfer to Reservist)before all the issues were worked out, and at the same time continue to deal with FQS and the unproven nuances it has.
ReplyDeleteI've heard that it takes at least 2 years for management at HQ to realize an error in judgment has been made and another year to correct it. I'll be interested, but doubt I'll last the 3 years necessary to see how things shake out. As a taxpayer the cost in man hours, skilled experienced employees, and dollars ill spent has been tremendous to date, and will continue.
We take pride in giving service to the States and the citizens the Stafford Act covers. The ability to do that in a timely competent manner has been compromised by disregarding the specialties needed to competently serve those citizens. East coast PA, HM, EHP vs west coast PA, HM,EHP are very different. Maybe they shouldn't be, but the areas themselves are very diverse and one size fits all doesn't cover.
AMEN - totally agree and remember IA declarations are few and far between - so to even get a 30 day deployment will be a miracle.
DeleteWell Joan you answered two of Paul's 10 questions. Your first answer conflicts with information we received from Regions and other sources...only five years...not ten. Your second answer begs the quesion: what makes you think that denying people hard earned pay and step increases has anything to do with being "fair and equitable"...the proper word is "outrage". Want to take a shot at the other 8 questions.
DeleteOne more question....why has it taken over 25 days for anyone to post and publish the Reservist Community Idea Scale ??
DeleteI transferred out of one Region into another Region and did not have to sign one piece of paper. The Regions did it all. Why would that work for NDRP ?
ReplyDeleteI have not seen 8600.1 or the Conditions of Employement as promised on Tuesday's webinar. It is now less than 15 hours till the enrollment period starts and we still don't know what we are signing up for.
ReplyDeleteWill the application period be rescheduled until after they are released?
I am a HQ generalist/was... there is not enough work to go around. I am one that needs to work more than 30 days a year. I have come to the realization that the changes will not benefit the reservist. On the webnair certain questions were asked, but we were not given any real clarification such as (collecting unemployment, conditions of employment,changes to program etc.)we have nothing in writing; but we are to apply for positions without such pertinent information. I don't think so....and to comment to the above statement about finding a job... do not state nor put on any resume's or application that you work for FEMA. In your interview for any potential jobs come up with some unique reason why you have not been employed. I just started a new position which I did not mention FEMA no where during the hiring process. Because as you stated; employers will not hire you because they feel you will leave as soon as duty calls. Simply avoid any connection to FEMA when looking for employment.
ReplyDeleteI understand the Reservist can request up to 60 days leave, during which time they will not be available. Here is a hypothetical situation that I would appreciate clarification on:
ReplyDelete1) Reservist John has paid for a 7 day cruise that leaves April 15th and returns April 21st. Would he request Reservist Leave to cover just those days at sea or at least 30 days prior to leaving? If John was deployed April 1st for a minimum 30 days, he would be missing the cruise.
Would requesting leave for approximately 45 days be necessary, from March 15th-April 21st to cover the 30 days preceding the cruise, plus the days at sea?
2) In reference to the three strikes you're out rule while available. If you get a deployment call, that you decline due to valid reasons (doctor appmt, etc), are you put at the rear of the deployment list, or can you get another deployment call within a few days of the first? Hypothetically, if someone is undergoing medical treatments, etc for a week, that was unplanned (so Reservist Leave was not requested), would it be possible for him to get 3 deployment calls within a week and be terminated?
Hello Joan, HQ?...the previous question deserves an answer if there is one.
Delete1)In case someone forgot, when we agree to be deployed we are committing for a minimum 30 days in most cases. So, do we have to also put in for Reserve Leave at least 30 days BEFORE we are going on a trip or have a commitment, along with the time actually spent on the trip? Therefore, the 60 days of Leave would be used up in one 30 day trip for leisure purposes.
2)I never heard an answer to what happens after you decline a deployment while not on Reservist Leave. Do you go to the bottom of the call list, or can you receive another call in a day or two, hours, etc?
3)Want to raise morale (if anyone cares) go back to the "available" or "unavailable" call system. Increase the time you must be "available" to a reasonable level. I would suggest twice what it was, if necessary, 120 days, at least 60 days continuous. I've been involved in deployments and workforce issues for a large emergency response agency in my real career. The new COE, especially regarding "availability" is already killing morale, and will cripple the Reservist work force. Stand by to start terminating people with the 3 strike rule. HR will have a lot of fun!!!
25 comments without responses from HQ, what does this tell us?
ReplyDeleteIt tells us - we are not important and they are too busy saving their own job positions. Where is ADM Fugate in all of this???? Wait until Debby hits and see how many DAE's will be available to work - not many - and you know what happens when PFT's and Hqtrs try to run a disaster!!!!!!Those of us that truly care about the disaster victim will continue to do the job and suck up the negativity and frustration....
DeleteI would like to know if being terminated due to the three strikes rule will be held against you if you reapply as a reservist at a later date? For instance your availability may change and since now the COE requires us to be basically available all the time I'm wondering if it would be better to quit so you are not black-balled or take your chances on being deployed.
ReplyDeleteThis discussion in regard to Unemployment is annoying. Do you realize that my state, and I am assuming all states, require that you contact 10 or more employers each 2 week period in order to receive unemplyment? How can you HONESTLY do that if you are on call 24/7 12 months? Or do you not tell employers about your FEMA position? Remember this is an expense and tax dollars are involved. Until this requirement for Federal workers, such as us, is lifted no one should qualify for UC.
ReplyDeleteI have read the comments and questions published and find some of the comments are disturbing. Before I continue, I would like to say I found the work and the DAE's I worked with for the most part very rewarding. I held the position of PA Specialist as a CONTRACTOR during Katrina, Rita, and Ike. I have worked with different JFO's and their leadership in New Orleans, New York, Indiana, Kentucky, Texas and other locations. I realize this forum has been setup for current DAE's, however, after reading this blog I questions what is the future for DAE's vs. Contractors. I am currently torn as to which direction to pursue. I truly enjoy the work and established a successful track record. Would this concern please be addressed. I realize my concerns are more suited for phase II, but sometime you have to address issues in the moment.
ReplyDeleteMy question is why is all this aggravation necessary? Why not grandfather in current employees? Seems like a snafu to me when some people have gone through endless paperwork to get a job and then do it all over again. Is this someone's idea of a way to fix things or just a painful redo of the staff to make it look like something is being done. Waste of time and money!
DeleteYour error is that you're operating from the premise that Washington-FEMA and the White House-wanted to retain all of us in our current pay status and positions.
DeleteSo what do you do now that you turn in form 306 2001 copy.I guess i will not be hired. It was bad enough i was listed a trainee after 7yrs and 9 deployments. I just want to help out when they need it. I know i am not the only one that feels this way. Some one let me know what to about form 306 thanks.
DeleteI do to think the White House has any thing to do with our salaries, THINK CONGRESS!!
ReplyDeleteCALM DOWN ANON Jul 7 @ 0844.
ReplyDeleteYou, like many DAEs on the webinars and in the blogs, are focused on your wages. You completely missed my deeper point and I DO think about Congress ALL the time precisely because they've been excluded from this entire process. You should be quite upset about that but you spotted the "money" issue in my comment and jumped.
So ANON, THINK THIS: Salary is irrelevant when your job has been purposefully deconstructed to the point of NONEXISTENCE.
But continue to focus on diversions and you make some in Washington very, very happy.
DAEs serve in many roles with FEMA. All government agencies needed to show that they were reducing their budgets including pay. Now what better way for FEMA to show the President and Congress that they are cutting pay. Well why not go after what is often called the backbone of FEMA...the DAEs. Oh yes and let's show the President and Congress we can be proactive by cutting a few hundred people out of their step increases and pay raises and blame it on HR and call it "fair and equitable".
ReplyDeleteIt is 1984..George Orwell....Anyway..what's a backbone for ???
What's a backbone for anyway?
Here I am, living in Florida - longtime IA DAE that has applied and not deployed since Dec 2011. I am sitting by the tele wishing for the new program to be initiated so I would be called!!!
ReplyDeletePS - Why quibble about salaries when hopes of being deployed are dim? More disaster relief money to applicants is what you should be campaigning Congress for.
Speaking of salaries...Instead of focusing on our individual cadres and employee situations, why not appropriately shift our collective focus and "emotions" toward the PFTs? Specifically Regional staff whose authority and duties have been usurped by HQ--AND--who were capable of DEFENDING AND FIGHTING FOR US BUT DID NOT. How many of you are aware that PFTs above certain grade levels are UNION? AFGE. All of you should be searching your Region's PFT salaries on this site. http://php.app.com/fed_employees11/search.php
ReplyDeleteDon't fret because their salaries are by law, required to be published since they too are paid by YOUR DOLLARS. If many have reduced areas of control, should not a reduction in pay follow,say,just as in FQS?
And those with access and courage should question Craig Fugate and ask him why he boasted to PFTs that he saved their positions but targeted DAEs, the "walk ons", as he referred to us early in his tenure as Administrator.
FOCUS your energy effectively from now on, my DAE friends. Do not scramble to put out the camp fire when the forest before you is burning.
When you think of it FEMA really is a strange hybrid agency with 75 per cent of employees working intermittently. I prefer the present system because I believe that there is a better chance for fairness when things are broken up among many people on a local level instead of being part of a ten thousand to twelve thousand cadre under one roof. My Region is certainly not perfect but it did seem to have an discernible criteria for grade and step increases. I left another Region because to me it was completely unfair and abritrary they way they hired and promoted.
DeleteThat is not to say that my present Region is perfect. I and many of the DAEs have never met our cadre manager face to face. Even when the manager had the opportunity to meet us when we worked a disasster in the Region's city, he ignored an invitation to come and meet us. No explanation given. I think this is terrible but I would not even bother to send an invitation to the heads of the new cadres in Washington DC.
So DAEs mostly work alone without recognition from PFTs but it is ok because their are other rewards received from the people we serve.
Does anyone wonder how these critical comments and the ones on the IDEASALE must make our leaders feel. They better not have thin skin ?
DeleteMaybe it is just me but did anyone notice how demoralized the Regions people looked as the Webnars progressed. And these are not the DAEs who are being affected. Woopie 7300 applied for jobs they already had....what choice did they have ?
DeleteI submit the following just to show that DAEs are not malcontents and gripers....Most of the comments on this site are negative and justly so.
ReplyDeleteI thought I was being oversensitive last year when I saw a website highlighting FEMA work in 2011 with hardly a word devoted to FEMA recovery. It was all about the response phase. Our leader Fugate history is saving lives and putting out fires and leaving others to clean up the mess which is only secondary in importance. But I said I was submitting something to show my experience of positive DAE work. This is just a tiny drop in the ocean of DAE value.
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DHS Employee Essay
"I have served two terms as a FEMA DAE.The first time was from 1979 to 1983. The second was 2004 to the present.I have seen many improvements since FEMA began as an Agency. Three major improvements I have witnessed are #1 widespread use of computers; #2 call centers and helpline for applicants; #3 NEMIS controlled by the NPSC.
These are great FEMA improvements but nothing compares to the satisfaction I have experienced helping applicants directly as a DAE.During the Cuban/Haitian Flotilla in 1980, I brought together particular family members who had not seen each other in 14 years. In 2010 in the New Orleans DRC I met a guard whose parents were part of the flotilla.
After hurricane IKE I met an applicant who remembered me from Houston in 2005 and thanked me for helping him find a job after Katrina. Once I was walking down Poydras St. in New Orleans and man recognized me and called me his angel because I saw he was eligible for one month’s residence in a hotel, a benefit overlooked by another agent.
As a former NPSC analyst, I have met people in the DRCs who were eligible under a section of the Ownership Guidelines which I authored. After Hurricane Floyd I persuaded upper management not to require appeal letters when disaster victims whose homes were washed away sent proof of ownership. This saved hundreds of survivors many weeks in obtaining assistance.
My first priority is toward people seeking help after a disaster, but I also have experienced many great moments working as a team with other FEMA employees.
In 2004 after Hurricanes Charlie, Francis, Jean, and Ivan, I was given a picture signed by 60 Community Relations DAE s whom I led, with the words, “You are the Greatest,” written across the picture. I still meet applicant assistants who thank me for my leadership as Operations Branch Chief in the Houston DRC after Katrina/Rita.
As a DAE, when I am called a national asset, I am grateful and take pride in the work I have done in 23 States."
I'm still waiting on whether you have to take 45 days leave for a two week vacation, since you have to be available to work for 30 days BEFORE you go on vacation. C'mon HQ answer that, it should be included in your Conditions of Employment....obviously you didn't think this through:
ReplyDeleteSuggestion: As before, leave the deployment system availability as is, or increase the required availability to a reasonable amount, ex: 120 days. Asking people to stay home by the phone for all but a 60 day "leave" is ludicrous, and just plain unworkable. Who's idea was this 3 strikes rule? If you don't answer the question, this Blog is a farce.
The more things change the more they stay the same. You are so right. The ADD call system forces DAE to be on their toes at least once every 30 days and it is an excellent way to keep track of thise who are really serious about work because they are available on holidays. It also solves the important question you raise. FEMA and DAEs have created a fair bargain. FEMA is not a very secure job for anyone who really really needs an income but it can be a great supplemental income for a lot of trained experienced people, mostly semi-retired. I actually met a former governor of the state of Maine who worked as a DAE.
DeletePeople if being a FEMA DAE works for you, good. If it does not move on and find a better job or agency. Above all limit your expectations becaue you are managed by six figure a year career government analysts who don't always have your lowly best interests at heart. It is what it is. I'm just sayin.
Good point - I understand what the HQTRs work force is trying to do, but for a lowly DAE to sit by the telephone for 365 days 24/7 for a "perhaps" deployment (I am in IA and you know how few IA declarations there are!)for 30 days is absurd. Especially since they were not sure if they would allow you to deploy from other than your home (duty station). I could be away from my home often but in cell contact and have ID etc with me to deploy if a call came. I suppose a cost comparison would have to be done - so be it! Think about this HQTRS.
DeleteUnderlying all the issues surrounding the NDRP is a classic turf battle between the Regions and HQ. Make not mistake, the real loser in this battle are the DAEs.
ReplyDeleteI am a former DAE, who had to resign in 2008 and I am trying to get back in and apply for the DAE position. I have made several attempts calling personnel and up to now no response. Can someone please assist me?
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